Sunday, February 18, 2007

Rebuttal: Was Muhammad foretold in Parsi Scriptures?

The Epistle of Sasan I in Dasatir contains the prophecy about Prophet Muhammad. Sasan I was a reformer of the Zoroastrian religion. It is believed that this Epistle is a part of the teachings of Prophet Zoroaster, to which Sasan I added his explanatory notes.

Some scholars have suggested that the word `Dasatir' means ten (das) parts (tir) while others contend that this word is derived from Dasatur, meaning religious law. The Zoroastrians are also known as `Magians' and `Fire Worshipers.' The Epistle of Sasan I describes future events at a time when Zoroastrians will have forsaken their religious practices. The English translation of the Epistle of Sasan I is presented below.

"When the Persians will do such deeds,
a man from among the Arabs will be born
whose followers shall overthrow and dissolve
the kingdom and religion of the Persians.
And the arrogant people (Persians) will be subjugated.
Instead of the temple of fire and the house of idols
they will see the House of Abraham without any idols
as their Qibla.
And they (Muslims) will be a mercy to the worlds.
And they will capture the places of temples of fire,
Madain (Ctesiphon), nearby lands, Tus and Balkh,
and other eminent and sacred places (of Zoroastrians).
And their leader (Prophet Muhammad) will be an eloquent man
whose words and message will be clear and far-reaching."

The word by word translation of the Epistle of Sasan I is given below. The text of this Epistle is taken from Dasatir published by Mulla Pheroze during the reign of Shah Nasiruddeen Kachar of Persia. Mulla Pheroze lived in Bombay (India) and he was an eminent scholar of Pahlavi, Zend, Persian, and Arabic languages. He consulted with several famous Zoroastrians priests toauthenticate his translation. The original text is in Pahlavi.

Answering-Islam writes:

Should Muslims intend to uphold this "prophecy" they need to put some effort into authenticating the document itself, i.e. its age and content, not only the accuracy of the translation.

My Response:

A similar trick you people applied to Hindu scriptures and once again, the proof given for your claims is pretty useless. But lets see what you have to say.

Answering-Islam writes:

We have inquired with a scholar in the field of Zoroastrianism and early Persian texts and were given this information:
... you are entirely right in suspecting the authenticity of the 'Epistle of Sasan 1'. The 'Desatir', from which it is cited, aroused a great deal of interest among Parsis and in the academic community at its publication, because it contained much remarkable material, but as soon as it was the subject of serious scholarly investigation it was established, on the basis of language and contents, that it was a literary forgery. It is thought to be the product of some Persian Sufi school, with only the most tenuous connection with Zoroastrianism. The spuriousness of your particular passage is instantly apparent, because there was no Sasan 1. "Sasan" was the eponymous ancestor of the Sasanian royal family, but nothing is known about him, and the name was never borne by any king of the dynasty. A whole succession of obscure "Sasans" were, however, invented to link the historic dynasty with the legendary Kayanian dynasty of the Zoroastrian 'Avesta' [prayer book of Zoroastrianism], and so the name occurred in semi-mystical writings, and would readily have been picked up by the unknown author of the 'Desatir'. There is no reason to suppose that the text of an 'Epistle of Sasan 1' existed outside that work.

My Response:

Why didn’t you give the name and details of the person whom you contacted. I am sure that you did not contact anyone, you are just making this up yourself. Even if you did, you must have contacted someone like Ali Sina. Even if we suppose that this is spoken by a scholar, this doesn’t prove anything. You must have heard the story of the boy who cried wolf. The fact is that after the revolution in Iran, many haters have been created like Ali Sina and due to him nobody trusts your so-called scholars that you contacted and discussed with.

The writer that you discussed with says a lot of things which shows that this matter is not well known in history and has many contradictions.

Lets see what the Encyclopedia has to say,

…Details of his life vary, but most scholars believe he was originally a prince in the province of Persis and a vassal of Gochihr, the chief petty king in Persis… (Encyclopedia Britannica)

The Encyclopedia says that the man is not well known and you concluded that he did not exist. This is very strange.

Britannica Concise Encyclopedia ... or Sassanian dynasty Persian dynasty ( 224–651). Founded by Ardashir I (r. 224–241) and named for his ancestor Sasan ( 1st century ), it replaced the Parthian empire ( Parthia ). Its capital was Ctesiphon . The dynasty battled the Roman Republic and Empire and its successor the Byzantine ...

The I in Sasan I could be referring to the first century. Maybe due to translations and through time, it became a part of his name. Maybe Sasan was also known as Sasan I to the later people. Maybe it’s not a name but a title and many others has this title after him. I say maybe because the Encyclopedias say that not much is knows about him. There are many possibilities and you chose to reject him altogether. This shows your closed-mindedness and hate for Islam.

Some prophecies are found in Farvardin Yasht XIII:17 and XXVIII:129, Zamyad Yasht: 95, and Atash Nyayish: 9.

The severely brainwashed haters at Answering-Islam did not comment on that in any way. When Islam came to Persia, many Parsis left Persia for India. If you believe that these prophecies have been introduced into the books by the Muslims, then please open the scriptures they have, you will see that they have the same prophecies.

Answering-Islam should answer with some proof rather than just pure rejection.

In the opening, Answering-Islam said…

Should Muslims intend to uphold this "prophecy" they need to put some effort into authenticating the document itself, i.e. its age and content, not only the accuracy of the translation

They failed to provide any proof and just wanted the Muslims to put some effort into finding the truth. The fact is that, the truth is very clear and Answering-Islam has failed to provide any proof for their claims.

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